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tv   Cavuto on Business  FOX News  April 20, 2013 7:30am-8:00am PDT

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>> neil: neil cavuto here is some of the latest we've got on this incredible terror week. the family of eight-year-old martin richard, he's the little boy killed in the boston bombing, thanking investigators who worked around the clock to track down the suspects. the family saying it's time for the justice system to, quote, do its job. meanwhile, senators john mccain and lindsey graham say the injured suspect is not, not entitled to his miranda rights. they want dzhokhar tsarnaev to be treated as an enemy combatant. and the transit police officer injured in a shootout with the suspects remains in critical condition. don't forget about this hero.
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officer richard donahue being treated for a single gunshot wound. meanwhile, authorities are still looking at another disaster further south, way further south, trying to get to the bottom of what caused that blast at the fertilizer plant in west, texas. fox'sdom nick is there with the -- dominic is there with 14 dead. >> 200 injured. we understand from the authorities that 14 bodies have been recovered. they do not expect that number to rise much, if at all. 13 critically ill in hospital. it's unclear now on day three after the disaster how many of those will pull through. they think most of them actually will. the bodies of those that have been recovered from the site here in west have been taken to dallas for forensics. those that were most closest to the epicenter of the site, difficult for them to identify. however, these are some of the faces of the dead that are now out there. kenny harris, harry calvin.
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he was 37. he was one of the emergency -- from the emergency medical services. cyrus reed was a firefighter. joey, he was a city secretary. jerry chapman, 26-year-old firefighter. the other names also released as well. they were two brothers, very tragically lost. they were the very first ones on the scene, from what we understand. some of the first responders and other firefighters there. it's the fire fighting department in this tiny town of 2800 people that have really been affected. it was a team of just 28 people and it's really shaken them very much to the core. the acting fire chief is george norse, junior. his father was injured and is in critical condition in dallas at the moment. he was describing really how everybody is trying to rally around and support each other at the time. here is what he had to say earlier. >> lot of the chaplins from the other fire departments coming in, just talking and kind of
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getting it off your chest to let you know they're here to help us, try to work through this. it's not going to be an overnight fix. it's going to be, you know, a drawn out fix, i guess you could say. they're just here to support us, just help us get back up. >> get back up is going to be a difficult thing to do. rick perry was here yesterday and he was saying that just one house now needs to be inspected and cleared and see if anybody else is inside there. 50 houses in total have been destroyed. this has just decimated this tiny rural community. back to you. >> neil: thank you. meanwhile. companies are stepping up and helping out in any way they can, donating at least $10 million. we're told some of the updated figures are $20 million. a top business leader in the fine city, one of the managing partners at bain capital, which is donate ago million dollars to that boston fund.
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he's also the co-owner of the boston celtics. he can't be perfect. anyway -- that's joking there. what a nice gesture. we always have a view of business as -- that flies in the face of stuff like that. it's refreshing to see. the fund is growing, isn't it? >> it's doing really well. the disaster happened on monday and the mayor and the governor got together very up front, knew there would be a lot of people hurt and the business community had a great outpouring and the partners of bain capital came together quickly and decided to be a cornerstone investor in this and are out there trying to raise money right now. it's been fantastic effort. boston has really risen to the challenge here. also outside of boston, we're getting calls from everywhere. >> neil: a lot of money will come in. they brought in ken fineburg to see how they're disbursed. they're meant for the vicks' families, right, or any of those affected by the attacks? >> yes. it's called boston one fund.org.
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go to the internet and read about the fund. the money will all go to the victims. >> neil: we're keeping -- continue. >> the money will go to all the victims of this disaster. our office actually borders the street that this happened on. so we heard the explosions and the window and it was an unbelievable site. i'll never forget just seeing the crowd and seeing people run towards the victim. they didn't run away from the bomb site. they ran toward them. and it will be with me forever. >> neil: boston, for a good while yesterday, was in a state of lockdown. nearly a million folks behind their doors and doing what authorities said. that had to be weird because these images we were getting out of boston, it looked like a ghost town. >> yeah. it was quite a scene. it was amazing the cooperation of the citizenry, both in apprehending the folks, the videos that came in and everybody abided by the law. i think the mayor and the
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governor and the police chief did a fantastic job there. >> neil: do you think, steve, that -- we know obviously the target was mayhem and violence and death and all that, but that the business community was in any way a target, to disrupt them, to even disrupt your economy, an argument you often hear about 9-11, that it was much to have an impact on our economy as it was on our fears? >> i can't speculate about that. i think all i've been focused and our partners and the business community is try to get the aid to the victims. these victims' lives will be affected just from showing up at a marathon, it seems tragic. siphons will rally and help all these folks, both the business community, sports community, everybody is rallying around. >> neil: it must be a bipartisan rally because bain capital is the mitt romney-inspired firm. is there a sense that you get that invariably, the political
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snipeing has ensued about what the government knew and when about the culprits behind this attack, whether local authorities in boston should have given the all clear when minutes later, there was a shootout in watertown. as a bostonnian yourself, what do you think of all that, just how local officials responded, whether they, you know, blew the relief whistle a little too early last night, everything ended up okay, but it could have gone the other way. >> i'm not a security expert, so i can't comment on that. i do know that the governor, the mayor, police chief, the f.b.i., they were working 24/7. there were thousands of people looking for these folks and looked to me from a distance, but -- >> neil: do you worry it's beyond these two guys? >> you know, i'll let them solve that. i think i'm really here to talk about the fact that we've got to help the victims and i think everything is being done --
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>> neil: i talked to other business leaders who are also contributing to this fund that you are, not to the degree you are, who say that they don't want to make this something that they have to do routinely, even though they love doing it because they want to make sure that this is an isolated event, that nothing was missed here. is it your sense that this is an isolated event, that there aren't more terror cells out there, that boston isn't still a target? >> i don't have enough data and facts. i think they're doing a comprehensive investigation and now the research begins. they're going to interview other people. they're going to look at every laptop and all the things that these terrorists used and they'll track that down. >> neil: by the way, the release of these funds affected, are you part of that process or once you raise the money and others like you, who have been very generous to raise the money, that's all in ken's hands, he decides? >> i think this is all coming together if real time. i would suspect that ken will be the guy that drives those kinds
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of decisions and ken did a great job here at 9-11 and he will do the same thing in boston. >> neil: very, very good seeing you even in these circumstances. >> thank you. >> neil: we mentioned this because of the money raised here. but i know so many on the right and the left always say business is bad, they're evil. they're lucifer in pin stripe. you name it. i want to remind you because it doesn't get much coverage, they've been beyond generous here and before anyone else stepped up and donated money, just some of the companies, some of the names, some within just minutes of the attacks announced and no one having any idea who was hurt or god forbid killed. so i know you hear views in the media about awful and self-centered business leaders are. i've covered them now for 30-plus years. not so. not so. all right. when we come back, you're in the white house. you got a crisis. you got a terrorist attack. what to do, how tow up.
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andy card, the white house chief of staff during 9-11 on what happens now.
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>> neil: welcome back. we are just getting word that the uncle of the two brothers here in the attacks on boston, he was the one who said they were idiots, remember, for besmirching the name of chechnya and peace loving chechens everywhere. he really rased them and said they are not representative of his people. anyway, he is going to be speaking top media again i'm told later today. i don't know from his home. when he does speak, we'll go there. okay. we're going to go to answered card on the phone with us, former white house chief of staff for president bush.
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of course, he famously was the one who got in the president's ear to say, mr. president, we're under attack. the famous, iconic image. i could just imagine, answered, what was going on at the white house in this event. how do you think it's all been handled? >> i actual lea give them high marks. i think today is a day, last night was a night for high fives and atta boys, law enforcement community, f.b.i., the people of boston, rallying and doing what they were told to do. but that doesn't mean the task is over. you've got to have a lot of work on lessons learned. you've got to do an awful lot of work to make sure it doesn't happen again. that should be the top priority is make sure that this does not happen again. we recognize there is a war on terror. acknowledge it. say we're going to fight hard in every way we can to prevent america from being attacked and we're going to learn from this experience.
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i also would say the white house has got to remember they've got to have peripheral vision and see everything else that's going on in the world here. this is not -- this has consumed america as we've watched fox news and the other networks to see what was happening in boston. but a lot of other things have happened. let's not forget that an awful lot of people died in the town of west, texas, and there is -- we need to demonstrate a lot of sympathy and empathy and concern for those people in that community. >> neil: that is a role of a president. i mean, george bush had to play tragically that role of consoler in chief. he was very effective at that. i think this president has been very effective at that. both men having to do this more times than i'm sure they would like or wish. that's a tough job. >> it is a brutal job. presidents have to manage their emotions, too. they can't -- they have to be empathetic with the motions of america, but they can't let those emotions prevent them from
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doing the job that has to be done, where they have to make decisions without emotion. they have to make analytical decisions and decisions that are brutally tough, but they have to be made and right now the president is going to be facing tough decisions about what next to do to make sure there is no other attack. he's got to make sure there are good lessons learned from why we didn't have better intelligence about this potential action and then prevent it from happening and find out what happened and what do we have to do to make sure it won't happen again. there is an awful lot to do. i give high marks to the white house for the way they did handle this and particularly high marks to the folks in boston, cooperating, the federal officials, local officials, the state officials. >> neil: everyone came together. you're right. >> but there are also tremendous ramifications to this activity. the economy is bad, too. >> neil: you're right. but i want to end it there.
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that the president on this level is consoler in chief and rallying the nation. i would agree did a very, very good job. now, my friend, charles payne, because there was a connection between what's going on in boston and what was happening on wall street this week, as you point out, there was always an excuse to sell given how far and how fast the market had run up. but if you look at this, charles. not to get too wonky, but for every tick in this drama, stocks moved either up on a promising sign or down on a suspicious sign. what do you make of how these things are joined? >> you know, the stock market from time to time can be driven purely by emotions. the fundamentals that have absolutely nothing to do with it, you know. over a period of time, the great stocks go up and the bad stocks go down. but from day-to-day, hour to hour, when we saw this early in the week when there was word they caught the -- arrest had been made, that was false at the time. but the market erased 100 points on the dow came back a little
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bit. yesterday's session was phenomenal in you felt the initial emotional, you know, baggage we all were carrying from this and then as the day progressed, you also felt the sort of resolve that you and answered just talked about from all officials. but i think from the country at large, the market served as something for the proxy. from the dow jones to close in the plus column yesterday was amazing. -- >> neil: you think that is relief that the boston thing was showing some closure? 'cause it ain't closed yet. there is a possibility that we might discover they were part of a larger cell. again, i'm not the empty glass kind guy, but concern we're not out of the woods here? >> there are concerns we're not out of the woods, but the emotional tie yesterday, to me, was amazing. again, even if it's ten points to the plus column was phenomenal. beyond that, we're dealing with some things that have become seasonal in the market. the last three years the market peaked in april and we've had
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>> neil: we're just getting word out of senator lindsey graham who, along with senators kelly ayotte and john mccain, have put out a statement on dzhokhar tsarnaev that he be seen as essentially an enemy combatant, quoting from the senator here, the suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. we do not want this suspect to remain silent.
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we're encouraged. our high value detainee interrogation team is now involved in working to gather intelligence about how these terrible acts were committed and the possibility of future attacks. a decision to not read miranda rights to the suspect was sound and is in our national security interest. so this is going to be a big debate here whether you treat him as just any u.s. offender, or in this case, someone who would be an enemy combatant, meaning harm to this country. obviously some key republicans are saying enemy combatant. whatever the case and whatever happens to the suspect, how does boston find closure? how do americans who also shared their anxiety about just going out in public find closure? dr. jeremy is president of the american medical association. he's also a marathon runner. doctor, good to have you on both counts. boston sort of coming out from behind closed doors, literally,
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after being told to stay behind them. but it's a lot easier said than done to get back to normal, isn't it? >> yes. and as i got into here into boston last night, i saw the celebrations and i was relieved that things were finally safe and the suspect was caught. but it's going to take time to recover from this. >> neil: people are going to be a little gun shy, no crass pun intended, about going to large public events now, aren't they? there is already beefed up security in london ahead of their marathon for just this sort of thing. what do you tell people who almost want to stay behind their closed doors? >> well, i think we all have to go on with our lives, do the kind of things that give us pleasure and certainly for me, run not guilty a marathon, gives me pleasure and i would hope that everyone that's going to be doing that is going to go ahead and do it and have a heightened sense of vinal lance will what might be out there. >> neil: what might be out there could be anything, right? who would have thought even a
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week ago that just watching a marathon could put you in harm's way? a lot of folks are now saying, neil, what's to stop them from hitting a mall, from hitting a train station, stuff we always feared since 9-11, but since it hadn't happened, we put those fears on the back burner. they appear to be on the front burner again. should they be? >> sure. well, i think we have to rely on our government, our leaders, our security forces to make sure that we're as safe as possible, but we have to recognize there are limits to that. >> neil: well said. thank you very, very much. we have so much to cover here, so much we're getting on this push now to declare the suspect an enemy combatant of the united states, something we'll get into with rudy guiliani in the next hour. we're back here for a special edition of your world at 4:00 p.m. eastern time monitoring what will have been by then comments from the suspect's family, including his uncle who you might recall had
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